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Postaj by borna sri 16 stu 2016 - 19:50

Došlo je nešto novo (u stvari dosta staro)
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Lokomotivu prije isporuke novom vlasniku treba dobro razvoziti
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Imade i priloženu uputu
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Meni su draže Maerklinke ma koliko stare bile, jednostavnije je pregledati ih i urediti
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Postaj by borna ned 20 stu 2016 - 22:03

Do mene je došao i jedan dobro sačuvani komplet od Minitrainsa, na provjeru pa da pošaljem do poznatog kupca
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Kutija je vrlo dobro sačuvana, unutra je sve na broju
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Izvadih lokomotivicu da ju isprobam ali JOJ
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Na desnoj strani nedostaje klin koji drži poluge!
Sada treba izmisliti (napraviti) tu minijaturu i onda dobro zalijepiti kod montaže?
Sve je očigledno novo odnosno vjerojatno je kod prve vožnje taj klin ispao i izgubio se..
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Od jednog prijatelja sam dobio njegove ostatke za ispomoć pa sam se primio posla
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Najprije sam sve rastavio i podmazao sa masti
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Međutim muke s radom i dalje traju, motorčić radi ali povremeno zapinje (kod sporije vrtnje). Neki od zuba nije pravilan
(ili je možda na pužu problem?) pa kad dođe u određen položaj tvrdoglavo zapne i motor nema snage da se nastavi
vrtiti! Morat ću sve ponovo očistiti pa pod povećalom pregledati svaki zub(ić) i puž(ić) dok ne otkrijem grešku.
Gledajući kasnije ove slike gdje su zubčanici kod velikog povećanja sam otkrio da je jedan puž napukao po dužini te da su zubčanici
na osovinama malo potrošeni; kad neki od njih dođe do puknutog mjesta na pužu zapne!
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Postaj by borna pet 16 pro 2016 - 20:11

Jedan prijatelj iz Slvenije je obećao poslati mi te osovine sa puževima, kad stignu nastavit ću sa tim radovima.
U međuvremenu je došla jedna Marklinova Br 23 na uređenje
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Počeo sam od kopči koje su bile malo iskrivljene i previsoke u odnosu na standard
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Stariji Maerklin je imao metalne kopče koje bi se u dječjoj igri savinule pa ih je trebalo podesiti.
To se može izvesti pomoću tvorničke šablone (koja je ispod) ili prema nekom vozilu sa novim plastičnim kopčama
koje se ne mogu iskriviti (mogu samo puknuti)
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Ta lokomotiva spada u noviju seriju koja se prodavala pod imenom Primex u pojednostavljenoj izvedbi (uglavnom u robnim kućama)
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Usporedio sam ju sa svojim originalom iz početka 60-ih koji je kompletan
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Štedilo se i na prijenosu, Primex ima zubčanik na samo jednoj osovini a dalje se sila prenosi polugama.
Original se radio od 1954 do 1972 godine a kasnije je nastavio Primex sve do 2.ooo. godine(zadnjih 10-ak
godina je ipak bio kompletan). Maerklin je pred nekoliko godina počeo raditi stare omiljene modele pa i Br 23.
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Postaj by borna pet 16 pro 2016 - 20:19

Došla je još jedna Br 23 u jako tužnom stanju
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Siroče je u zaista jadnom stanju pa će radovi potrajati
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Lokomotiva je iz kraja 50-ih godina
Rastavit ću sve što se rastaviti da i najprije okupati u alkoholu da se odmasti a kasnije i skinuti svu boju te nanovo
lakirati (obruči oko kotla će biti najzahtjevniji posao)
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Problem je i u desnom velikom kotaču koji je izgleda padao pa ga je netko lijepo zakovao tako da pleše!
/odjednom je zavladala navala tih Br 23 koje su na glasu kao rijetke, još 2 su na čekanju no srećom su u dobrom stanju/
Doznao sam od sadašnjeg vlasnika zašto je lokomotiva u takvom stanju (citiram)
br 23 sam dobio od frenda, on je sam priznal da su on i buraz, pedesetih godina, (stari im je delal nešto u vanjskim, pa je hodal po Njemačkoj ranih pedesetih) ko klinci puštali loksu brzo te je pokušavali udariti sa čekićem i usput psovali mamu nacističku, (možda i nisu al tak je bar rekel)
/to može samo Maerklin izdržati/
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Rastavljanje na osnovne dijelove
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Nosače ovih rukohvata je trebalo pažljivo izvaditi (rukohvate ću kasnije napraviti nove)
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Još moram skinuti usmjerivače vjetra (uha) i rukohvate na kabini.
Slijedi kupanje u kočionom ulju...
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Postaj by borna sub 17 pro 2016 - 19:47

Nakon kupanja od 20-ak sati (i ispiranja vrućom vodom) sve je čisto, jedino ponegdje moram izčačkati ostatke crvene boje
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Na obje slike se vidi kako je netko zakivao kotače na osovine Evil or Very Mad  a na drugoj se lijepo vidi da su sva tri kotača
postavljena različito Shocked
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Najbolje (i najskuplje) bi bilo nabaviti nove kotače i osovine....jer ako ovo olabavim i pomaknem kako treba morat ću opet zakivati?
(do dalnjega je lokomotiva na čekanju)
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Br 81 je još jedan kandidat za bojanje jer ju je netko loše obojao (tko zna kada?)
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Nekih većih oštećenja ii ogrebotina nema pa lakiranje u crno neće biti problem, kao i bojanje crvenih detalja.
No bojanje obruča kotla će biti zahtjevno, uz držalo koje se da horizontalno okretati trebat će jaako dobar tanki kist,
jako svijetlo i mirna ruka!
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Ova boja se niti nakon 2 dana nije otopila pa ću je do kraja odstraniti nitro-razređivačem!
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Postaj by borna sub 17 pro 2016 - 19:53

Došla je i jedna Br 01 iz kraja 50-ih na obnovu
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Nažalost na lijevoj strani nedostaje dio poluga
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Pretražio sam svoje rezervne djelove i našao odgovarajuće poluge ali za desnu stranu koje ne mogu nikako
preokrenuti za lijevu pa ako netko slučajno ima odgovarajuće bio bih zahvalan da mi se javi!
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Unutra je sve dobro osim jedne žice kojoj nedostaje izolacija.
Lokomotiva ide u rastavljanje pa dobro kupanje, sušenje a nakon sastavljanja slijedi malo šminkanja
Došlo je nešto i američkog porijekla u moju radionicu!
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Sve je solidno metalno i jednostavno napravljeno
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Puž, mali među.zubčanik i drugi na srednjoj osovini, ostale su pokretane polugama
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Vlasnik je to sastavio na pola pa odustao od završetka dok se ne otkrije što ne valja jer ne radi (vozi)
kako treba!
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Postaj by borna ned 18 pro 2016 - 18:15

Malo sam se posvetio i njezi jedne dobro učuvane V 200, stare barem 50 godina
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Taj model lokomotive imade najduži zamah od svih Maerklinovih, kad joj se kod pune brzine isključi struja ona se
kotrlja još najmanje metar dok ne stane!
/meni je na mojim maketama radila probleme na izoliranim odsječcima koji su obično bili dužine 36 cm, nije smjela
voziti više od pola "gasa" da ne preleti preko crvenog signala!/
Došla je jedna elektra pred nekoliko dana, osim mehaničkog uređenja trebat će i bojanja.....
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...krov cijeli a ostalo možda prođe uz popravke kistom i kasnije poliranje?
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Rukohvate treba zamijeniti kao i kopče kojima nedostaje "kapica"
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I skija je zrela za zamjenu
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Druga je u boljem stanju, bit će sitnih popravaka kistom
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Netko se počeo igrati patiniranja pa je obojio vozna postolja (na jednoj strani)?
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Postaj by borna uto 20 pro 2016 - 19:50

Prošli tjedan taman kad sam u četvrtak imao slobodan dan zatrpala su me 2 krda malih garavuša!
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2 su bez dimnjaka, 2 su izgubile vijke za poluge na kotačima, nekoliko skija treba mijenjati itd...
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Ove imaju plastične odbojnike pa ih nekoliko fali (kao i 2 dimnjaka)
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Mehanika je uglavnom u redu, jedino se na jednoj raspao mjenjač smjera
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Karoserije parnjačica sam dobro okupao i očistio sredstvom za čišćenje suđa pa isprao u vrućoj vodi,
sada trebam pronaći i zalijepiti odgovarajuće odbojnike i dimnjake, kasnije ću još obojiti poneke detalje
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Došla je i jedna starija V 212 kojoj treba poravnati ograde, obojiti krov i poneke ogrebotine crvene boje
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Unutra je klasika, masivna i solidno čvrsta
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Ova lokomotiva imade zanimljiv prijenos od motora do pogonskog postolja- na gornjoj strani dolaze zubčanici od
rotora do prvog dijela kratkog kardana koji na donjoj strani preko jednakog zubčanika ide na postolje.
Tako je motor fiksan i pomaknut prema sredini da bi stao u kabinu a pogonsko postolje je opet gibljivo u
svim smjerovima! (cijeli taj sklop se brzo rastavi ali za sastaviti ga natrag treba vremena i živaca)
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Postaj by borna uto 17 sij 2017 - 12:53

Na uređenje je došla je i jedna mala dieselska manevarka u pojednostavljenoj Primex izvedbi
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Nema ograde i bočne blende pa je stoga skoro pola jeftinija (?), upitnik je jer je iznutra punokrvna Maerklinka!
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Original Henschel DHG 500
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1963 do 1976 je napravljeno 62 takovih lokomotiva
Po svemu osim malo drugačijeg krova i naravno pantografa je EA 500 manevarka kojoj trebam popraviti pantograf
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U stvarnosti su napravljene svega 4 takove lokomotive 1966 godine
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Postaj by borna uto 17 sij 2017 - 12:56

Nakon duugo vremena do mene je došla ponovo jedna Hruska (iz DR-a, prodavala se preko Pika)
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Radi se o Br 84, lokomotivu je trebalo otvoriti i podmazati te izravnati jednu polugu. Jedan vijak je između stražnjih odbojnika a drugi naprijed
skriven ispod prednje slobodne osovine
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Motor(čina) je povelika, naprijed imade i kontakt za generator dima
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Kako je olovo u DDR-u bio strateška sirovina (za municiju) umjesto njega se koristio lim u trakama
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Odostraga treba dosta pokušaja i živaca da se ova opruga natakne na vijak unutar lokomotive. Ona pritišće pločicu
sa žaruljicama za stražnja svjetla te ujedno prenosi jedan pol, općenito su lokomotive malih DDR proizvođača pune
raznih zamki. (izvježbana ruka to sastavi brzo i lako)
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Postaj by borna ned 22 sij 2017 - 21:02

Mehano francuskinju mi je u Backov dućan donio jedan posjetilac na popravak jer su joj pukle kopče (što je standardno kod tih lok)
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Našao sam odgovarajuče kopče među Maerklinovima (trebalo ih je samo malo produžiti ravnanjem)
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Drugi česti problem kod njih se javlja kad puknu zubi koji drže prednje postolje, jednom pločicom mekane plastike sam riješio taj problem
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Mehanotehnikin transformator u početnoj crnoj boji bi mogao ići i u crtice iz povijesti koliko je star (oko 48 godina)
i još radi kako treba samo što daje nešto viši napon radi višeg napona u strujnoj mreži. (Nakon početne crne boje brzo su prešli na zelenu)
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Digitalne Marklinke sam ostavio za drugi dan da se ne miješaju sa običnim pukom
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Pošiljku za jednog Maerklinaša iz Rijeke sam još jednom provjerio na ispravan rad prije slanja
(začudili bi se koliko Maerklinaša imade u Rijeci i okolici no većina je nepoznata)
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Postaj by borna ned 22 sij 2017 - 21:17

Jedna mala crna Anna mi je dala razmišljati, trebalo joj je kopče zamijeniti običnima
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Kopče se drže između crnog i donjeg crvenog dijela no nigdje nema vijka kojim bi to razdvojio (jedini vijak na slici drži karoseriju)
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Na http://www.fleischmann.de/doc/ET/2/DE/4000_13140.pdf ima nacrta ali iz njih nije vidljivo kako to razdvojiti?
/pametnije je bilo odustati negoli oštetiti inače krasnu lokomotivicu koja uz to i lijepo vozi. Dobit će poseban vagon sa ovakvom kopčom na
jednoj strani a na drugoj će biti standardna/
Iz Rijeke je doputovala jedna dama u godinama (najmanje 50) koja je počela posustajati...
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Izvana je dobro sačuvana nno prvi pogled na četkice mi govori da su potrošene (duboko su unutra)
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Nakon skidanja poklopca se vidjelo da je sve dosta zauljeno i puno gareži od iskrenja (desno se vide nove i stare četkice)
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Kada je previše ulja skuplja se prašina i dlačice
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Postaj by borna ned 22 sij 2017 - 21:21

Zubčanici "vole"skupljati dlačice
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Nakon dobrog čišćenja svega malo sam polirao i kolektor rotora (tu ne valja pretjerivati), utori između pločica se čiste čačkalicom
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Stara izmučena skija je zamijenjena novom (vide se i nove četkice koje su sada više vani)
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Netko je nanio previše tinola na kontakt preko koga dolazi skija
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Isprobao sam i dimilicu koja radi, doduše trebalo joj je dugo da se probudi a tada je najprije pljuckala kapljice
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Lokomotiva sa ponosnih 676 grama ponovo radi kao nova i spremna je za slijedećih 50 godina rada!
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Na kontrolu i čišćenje je dola jedna brza E 03
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Pantografe je trebalo osposobiti za rad (netko ih je vezao žicom jer nisu htjeli biti u spuštenom položaju)
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Promijenio sam i karoseriju jer je stara bila dosta izguljena, pred nekih 5-6 godina sam slučajno dobio golu karoseriju u vrlo dobrom stanju!
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Dole sam očistio kotače te promijenio skiju i gumice na kotačima.
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Dovezla se i jedna digitalna Br 216 na malo oporavka
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Trebalo joj je staviti jednu kopču i promijeniti skiju
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Odnekud se stvorila i jedna analogna u istom bojanju (takvi modeli su dosta rijetki na tržištu pa postižu višu cijenu)
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I ta druga se nije navozila, iznutra je sve u odličnom stanju!
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I odozdola je sveu redu
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Borna, tvoja stranica "popravci" je uvijek interesantna................mozda bi trebao otvoriti Marklinov servis modela u HR sa njihovim pokroviteljstvom.............

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Postaj by borna ned 29 sij 2017 - 19:15

Hvala na zanimanju, to mi puno znači thanks
Eh kad bi bilo lako otvoriti servis to bih odavno učinio....
Kao prvo taj divni hobi je kod nas jako rijedak, gotovo na izdisaju i pogotovo Marklina je malo, prevladavaju ostatci Mehanotehnike.
Kad bi htio biti službeni M servis morao bi imati odgovarajuće prostore i koristiti njihove nove rezervne djelove a tada bih bio
daleko preskup! Npr kad mi netko donese lokomotivu kojoj treba promjena gumica na kotačima, žaruljica, četkica i skije samo
materijal bi došao najmanje 100 kn. Kad bi dodao još barem 60 za posao (jer bi morao plaćati porez) trošak bi lako premašio
polovicu vrijednosti neke starije lokomotive.
Kod novih koje koštaju od 100 do 500 Eura bi to bilo još prihvatljivo.
Marklin u Njemačkoj i EU nema malih partnera za servis već se sve šalje u tvornicu na popravak pa onda gornja priča iznosi i do
40 Eura. Poneki vlasnici manjih dućana (koji su u izumiranju jer se sve prebacuje na internetsku prodaju) rade sami manje popravke
po umjerenim cijenama.
Ja se za sada snalazim kupovinom rabljenih i novih dijelova ili čitavih lokomotiva preko eBay-a po nižim cijenama. Neke stvari poput
gumica i kopči su daleko jeftinije kad se kupuju veće količine što pojedincu ne treba i nije isplativo.
Za Mehano se snalazim kanibaliziranjem starih potrganih lokomotiva i vagona koje povremeno jeftino kupujem.
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Postaj by borna ned 29 sij 2017 - 19:20

Malo ću nastaviti sa pričama....
Na karoseriji je bilo nešto flekica koje sam očistio
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Nedavno sam pomazio jednu novu Merklinku
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Digitalna je, nove generacije
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Na postojeći dekoder se jednostavno prikopča zvučni dekoder...
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...i dole sprovedu 2 žice do zvučnika koji ima mjesto za ugradnju
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Postaj by borna uto 31 sij 2017 - 21:45

Neki dan sam se zabavio sa mališanima, od ovih 5 će nastati 3 dobre lokomotive!
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Najprije rastavljanje (osim jedne čitave) pa kupanje u alkoholu
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Karoserije u vrućem Čarliju
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Maerklin svakoj novoj generaciji mijenja broj na lokomotivi, počeli su sa 89 oo1 a došli do broja 010.
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Za prodaju sam napravio neke kolektivne slike
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Postaj by borna uto 31 sij 2017 - 21:48

Boja na Br 81 se i nakon kupanja u nitro-razređovaču još poznaje, no ipak je ima manje pa sam pristupio lakiranju
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Malo zahtjevnije će biti bojanje raznih detalja crvenom bojom a nateže će biti nanijeti bijelu boju na serijske brojeve i DB oznake
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Postaj by crhav sri 1 vel 2017 - 14:15

Zasto ne uptrebis mat lakove za farbanje lokomotiva............

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Postaj by borna sri 1 vel 2017 - 14:30

Znadem da bi trebalo koristiti mat ili barem polu-mat lak no većina onih koji kupuju žele da se lokomotiva sjaji kao....
Vremenom će ipak izgubiti sjaj koji imaju neposredno nakon lakiranja.
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Postaj by borna ned 12 vel 2017 - 18:31

Male lokomotivice su dobile dimnjake i odbojnike (koji su na nekima nedostajali), namjerno sam stavio malo deblje
da budu različite
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Jedna "milenjska" fotografija
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Kad već imam što za bojati uređujem ih odmah više (ovo nisu sve male, ima ih još ali su dotjerane)
Radim najprije sa crnom bojom pa kad se osuši crvenom i na kraju srebrnom obojim sitne detalje poput zvona,
zviždaljki ili sigurnosnih ventila.
Na jednoj lokomotivici sam promijenio mjenjač smjera i kad sam ugledao malu oprugu na sredini dole
sjetio se slikati - ta opruga lagano tiska srednju osovinu koja imade mali vertikalni pomak. Tako je kod
malih lokomotiva osigurano da imaju dobar kontakt na neravnoj pruzi
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Zadnja varijanta Br 89 (dole) ima brunirane kotače i poluge, bolju kopču koja se može mijenjati ali ima i nekoliko
zubčanika manje radi uštede
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Pogon se na prednje 2 osovine prenosi samo polugama
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Kod stavljanja novih odbojnika sam izbušio male rupice u odbojniku i kučištu te zalijepio CA lijepilom komadić
žice u odbojnik, po sušenju sve zalijepio na kučište.
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Tako nisam morao bušiti velike rupe jer i nema baš mjesta za takvo što...
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Postaj by borna ned 12 vel 2017 - 18:39

Jedna lokica je kao tvrdoglavo magare odbijala ići naprijed pa sam posumnjao u jedan namotaj na statoru
(i pripremio drugoga) No kad sam odlemio obje žice koje idu na mjenjač otkrio sam da je jedna bila pukla unutar
crnog bužira. Zalemio sam drugu žicu i sada vozi u oba smjera
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Bilo je malo i natezanja živaca sa Piko vagonima i njihovim oprugama (morat ću ih sam nekako napraviti barem 10-ak)
/na vgon dolaze novi metalni kotači/
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Na jednoj lijepo Maerklinovoj cisterni nedostaje kk mehanizam (na desnoj strani), ovo što imam se ne može upotrijebiti.
Morat ću rastaviti ispravnu stranu da vidim uopće kako to izgleda pa da probam sam napraviti?
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Na nekoliko vagona je trebalo i skinuti kopče da bi se izravnale
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I lakirnica je imala malo posla
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I najmanje lokomotivice se sa nekoliko dodatnih detalja mogu lijepo dotjerati
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Malo boje tu i tamo, malo žice za rukohvate.....ova je cijela i lakirana pa nestaje boja plastike, za usporedbu 2 nove
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Odjednom su s našle čak 3 talijanke (svoju im nisam pridružio)
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Jedna me je namučila, povremeno bi zastala i gubila struju. Promijenio sam skiju pa ništa, četkice pa opet ništa,
provjerom koji pol gubi sam došao do žice koja ide od skije na sabirno mjesto
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Iako je licna ona je uslijed čestog gibanja lijevo-desno u bužiru popucala pa bi povremeno bilo prekida.
Sabirno mjesto je kod prekidača za vožnju preko skije ili pantografa
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Ima već dosta kako sam dobio jednu karoseriju lijepog Liliputovog vagona bez postolja sa kotačima, danas je došao na red za uređenje
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Od mehano putničkih vagona sam upotrijebio postolja kojima sam odrezao dijelove koji su bili previsoki, stavio sam
Maerklinove kotače pa je vagon spreman za duge vožnje u švicarskim kompozicijama!
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Na red je došlo i nešto teretnjaka, uglavnom je trebalo staviti kopče a nekima i opterećenje koje je nedostajalo
(zato su zalijepljeni i privremeno sa gumicama)
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Ova 2 stara Rocova ću zadržati jer sam ih daavno malo patinirao i doradio
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(to je bilo pred 45 godina otprilike)
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Sada vidim da mu moram podignuti kopču....
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